"product_number": "33250000", How saturated is your cloth? Hey Loren. Solved my bubble, speck and brush stroke problems on my dashboard. "name": "Container Size", "value": "Clear", Any thoughts? The oil under the finish will not let the top coat cure properly. A few years ago I applied Helmsman (using a brush) to my outdoor picnic table. I am refinish a wood garage door that the original finish has deteriorated in some areas, but not others. Here is my Q! Please help. Not that they are bad products, but they sure didnt work well in my hands. I would simply apply a very dilute coat of marine varnish, let that soak in and wipe off the excess. That should get you a decent quality color fast stain that will be good under your oil based varnish finish. Another thing to try is denatured alcohol. Fiberglass doesn?t have any of these limitations. In general, the more coats you apply, the more protection the door will enjoy. Now if you decide to switch to oil-based poly, youll probably be fine just putting it over top of the cured lacquer finish. $24.99 Details. One other thing to try is manually creating the matte sheen using steel wool. Applied 5 coats thinned at 50% (2x) and 30% (3x) results are OUTSTANDING! But if the temp dips too low, the stain will stay sticky for quite some time. If you need to do something other than HVLP, try a brush. "value": "11.5 oz", Ive read that spar urethane provides more UV and moisture protection than a standard polyuretane. After a few seconds, it looks like water on a waxed car. Shari. The mixture of the mineral spirits and the varnish has been sitting in a plastic container and Im wondering if the plastic has somehow dissolved in the mix to cause the streaking. I am sure there are other options out there that I am unaware of and the folks who use them routinely would be the best to ask for advice. The door looked absolutely beautiful. Also, keep in mind that the wood may change color over time. Love the podcast! Any advice you have on how best to do this finishing project would be greatly appreciated. Sanding any sooner could cut into your stain. "isDiscontinued": "false", Sand more. Just throwing this out there as a possibility. Then I applied (sprayed) several coats of Hellsman spar satin varnish and it looked AMAZING, but the next morning (when the sun heated up the door) I was sadly surprised by my a lot of blisters everywhere in the door. Because you are actually applying less material to the surface, the dry time is significantly decreased as well. It looks wonderful while its wet, but when it dries it has slight cloudy look to it? I am getting ready to refinish my front door which is a mahogany door. Any suggestions for a longer lasting finish for teak? I also wanted to add that the Rapid Clear is not very thick at all. Ive thought about getting my orbital sander with 220 grit paper and lightly running it over the top of the table to see if I could level the finish. "ItemImage": "//sherwin.scene7.com/is/image/sw/paint_template-1?layer=comp&wid=250&fmt=jpeg&qlt=92%2c0&op_sharpen=0&resMode=sharp2&op_usm=0.0%2c0.0%2c0%2c0&iccEmbed=0&printRes=150&_tparam_layer_1_src=sw/HELMSMAN_HIGH-GLOSS_QUART", I recently a lightly weathered bench and sprayed it with spar urethane. There are other outdoor formulas from other companies that will work just as well. Im sure you have answered this one before, but the blog is long and Im short on time. Window sahes are so small you wont see any build up if you use a high quality china bristle brush and put on thin coats. Im having him come over next week to reseal the door and take a look at these issues. "partNumber": "1545102", I am learning a lot from this page. HELP!!!! We purchased an unfinished mahogany exterior door. The windows get constant moisture when it is cold outside (Wisconsin) and the bottom wood deteriorates very quickly. :) "Attributes": { Any help would be appreciated. So check it out! has some oil as well????? Youre putting a film on the surface so there will be at least some reflection. Please help with this challenge i am having. "facetable": false, I dont want him making it worse so Im going to try and fix it myself. WW, Should I resand the bench again, lightly apply some mineral spirits to the bench, or just add the finish directly then follow with the urethane. That way it keeps things nice and flat and you wont have any divots when youre done. Once the surface is flat and smooth, switch to the wiping method. Apply for a Home Depot Consumer Card Gives the protection of spar varnish on exterior wood surfaces Provides superior resistance to moisture and harmful UV rays Durable satin shine deepens its amber glow over time View More Details South Loop Store And if it were me, I wouldnt even think about it until the weather is much warmer. I did thin it a little this time however just to give myself a little more open time since it was so hot outside. As for dry time, youre right in that 24 hrs is usually plenty of dry time. With a PRO+ account, you can easily access color resources and order samples in a variety of sizes, now including Peel & Stick. About 10 years ago, I refinished our existing front door and applied gloss Helmsman spar urethane the door is on the south and has had exposure to direct sun in the summer time. "unitID": "", "15806": "9410317", The lacquer can says that I will need about 4 more coats, whereas the oil based urethane says I will need only about three total. After doing a few coats with the wipe-on method to get the spar varnish to really seep into the wood, what are your thoughts on using a brush to finish with a few thicker coats? "Sheen_Semi-Gloss": 83, $22.69. I wish I could give you better advice than to simply say, try HVLP. What you should be mostly concerned about is appearance. Thanks for your help. } The poly could fill the scratches and make them very undetectable. Man that will take a lot of sanding. I quote you all the time and refer folks to your site as an authority on finishing. "searchable": false, So keep it simple and life will be much easier in the shop. "unitID": "", Its tough to stir it back in by hand. The bubbles are like blisters and you can lift them off the door. And with oak, in general, blotching isnt a problem. "isDiscontinued": "false", They are less that 1/8th. I have strained my material, bought a new brush and still cant figure out why iit looks a bit cloudy??? Spar Urethane vs. Polyurethane: Which Is Better? - H2ouse.org I painting a large fiberglass horse with acrylic paint. Considering they wish to use it on their deck (in the sun) occassionally, what would be your advice regarding using spar urethane for this purpose, and modifying the viscosity to ensure penatration, flood sealing (in cracks), to attain a full smooth seal for use as casual seating. Sammy, :) Either apply a satin or semi-gloss variety of your finish or simply rub out to the desired sheen using high grit sandpaper or steel wool. I will try the oak baseboard first as you suggest Woodwhisperer and consider tile as you suggest Johnny Mack as a backup in case the oak does not work out. Nice site has proven very useful, and I might be tempted to take your advice about the rag. "values": [{ Give the tub a light sanding to freshen up the surface, then give it a couple coats of BLO. Its not worth the extra bucks. Are brush marks as big of problem if applied thinly on a horizontal door? We just had windows installed that are unfinished pine. About a year ago (see 1/26/10 post), I applied Helmsman Spar Urethane Semigloss to my exterior doors. Some folks say wiping the surface with an alcohol soaked rag will pull the moisture out. Hey Peter. Hey Marc, Thanks for your incredible website. Your opinion? "ItemThumbnailImage": "//sherwin.scene7.com/is/image/sw/paint_template-1?layer=comp&wid=250&fmt=jpeg&qlt=92%2c0&op_sharpen=0&resMode=sharp2&op_usm=0.0%2c0.0%2c0%2c0&iccEmbed=0&printRes=150&_tparam_layer_1_src=sw/Helmsman_Aero_Indoor_Outdoor_Spar_Urethane_Gloss", So if the surface isnt tacky at all then the softer finish might just be due to the nature of the product. They spray the door and when it dries there are horizontal areas spanning the width of the door that looks like not enough varnish was applied to those areas? I am building a bar to sit next to my pool. You can, but I probably wouldnt. Tried everything. But enough of that.on to your issue. If you decide to sand, I would use 180 to get the ridges down, then work my way up to 320 for a nice smooth starting point. This lustrous, durable finish is perfect for areas that get cleaned frequently. I know it involves a brush and starting with diluted coats and eventually building up to full strength coats. I am a newcomer to wood finishing and have run into a problem with a project Im working on. Now one thing from your description that sends up a red flag is that your 1 x 4s are attached to the plywood underlayment. Bottom line is if it pours somewhere between honey and thick syrup, it needs diluting. "searchable": true, So that little patch could very well create even bigger problems in the future. One thing to keep in mind is that even a matte finish, when part of a few layers of film finish, may still look a little glossy to the average person. :) If you let it cure for three to four days, I would definitely give the surface a little sanding to give the urethane a mechanical tooth. Also, tell me more about the bubbles. While I think the blotches are from a bad sand job (finish not completely removed in places where the raised blotches appear), the person who tried to refinish the door claims that the old finish just wouldnt come off., Anyway, now I am stuck trying to figure out what to do with this door. "ATT_calc_base_name_or_package_color_": "Clear", Also, would you recommend diluting it and wiping it on so as to get more penetration? I would assume the dry time on that would be a while. The metal parts are about the same some rust but mostly chips of paint showing completely coated w/ paint. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Analytics". "ATT_sheen": "Semi-Gloss" "unitOfMeasure": "", Im using the oil based Helmsman to make an outdoor table and chairs. There is a Helmsman spray can available but I have so much Urethane left over. Glad to help. I ideally wanted to keep the finish light and natural looking. Since these professionals are not finished yet with my interior (and Im very happy with the results there), I want to keep them happy. Used a Bartley Gel Stain and am reasonably happy with the result. Once the waterbased material is fully cured, you should have no problem coating it with oil-based spar varnish. ] First thing you should probably do is get yourself a pine board and practice. "uniqueID": "7000000000000365533" "attributes": [ If shes looking for bar top style finish, Id look into the pourable epoxy mixtures. So, I was able to put on two coats a day easily even with the high humidity here in Florida right now. It takes time to make wood smooth and have a coat that lasts. Honestly, I wouldnt really worry about UV protection. And thanks for this web site, its terrific . }, Ive tried to thin it with about 20 percent mineral spirts and it still leaves marks. Epifanes can be had at Defender Industries and also Jamestown Distributors both customer service dept.s are very helpful with any question on application of any of their products. Trying to finish with gloss Varathane polyurethane varnish. Click OK to extend your time for an additional 30 minutes. Write a review Ask a question Contains UV blockers to reduce the sun's graying and fading effects Forms a protective barrier against rain and moisture Minwax Water Based Helmsman Indoor/Outdoor Spar Urethane {{ ctrl.bvAvgRatingForScrReaders }} Star rating out of 5 {{ ctrl.reviewStats.TotalReviewCount }} Reviews Not Yet Rated Write a Review; Minwax Water Based Helmsman Spar Urethane is a crystal clear, water-based finish that is specially formulated to protect wood against nature's . }], Well any time you apply oil-based varnish under 60F, you are going to have much slower dry times and increased chance of crap settling in the finish. That limits the exposure to air. "unitID": "", Sometimes the haze just kind of goes away. "value": "Clear", "name": "Base", "isBuyable": "true", Just let the finish cure for a month before doing this: http://www.thewoodwhisperer.co..ss-finish/, Hi Marc! Plus the V-notches would make rolling a little difficult. Then get yourself a clean cotton rag (old t-shirt material works great), and fold it into a nice square applicator pad. And once its coated with finish, its look is really all that affects the final finish. So I can put my handle on the door or I will be forced to just put the handle on and urethane the door when the weather permits to do so. Thanks for the advice. My guess is, if you use a chemical stripper like we do on furniture, youre going to end up with an eyesore. I would at least start by thinning 50% with naptha and see how it goes. They do make water based outdoor finishes like Exterior 450 http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=18526 Didnt realize I got this saying water based. Suggestions? }], But if youre really looking to do something significant with color, you are better off doing this in the stain layer. "searchable": false, Hey Bill. If it were me, Id lightly sand and finish with another brushed coat or a couple of wiped on coats of Helmsman on your door. and a brief explanation of the oil and water base SPar since Minwax Indoor/Outdoor Helmsman Spar Urethane. "name": "Sheen", What is the best quality and type of stain you recommend that looks the best and will hold up under intense sun? Hi Danielle. The door was in pretty good condition with some minor weathering on one side. my question is: what can i put over the water sealer to make deck shine? Thanks for your time! Everyday Low Price. Epifanes? As long as there isnt too much stain in the finish, it should work fairly well. "attributes": [ I would like to put the sculpture out side, but I am worried that it is not sealed well enough. $34.16 But water-based finishes, traditionally, dont wipe well. Im impressed with the information on your web site!! Is this Epifanes that you talk about the best answer? Now i have never used that particular GF product, so I cant speak from direct experience. Is this worth worrying about? The table will not be exposed to the weather; I just want to protect the finish so that I can use it without tablecloths and enjoy the true beauty of the wood. These problems seem overlooked by most finishing instructions. "displayable": true, Is it normal? It came from the manufacturer with a great finish. I have steel woold the crummy bits off the old finish and have applied a minwax red oak oil-based stain to the surfaces, waited about 10-15 minutes, and then wiped the excess off leaving it dry and shiny. Ive learned quite a bit from all your posts. After the first rain I ended up with the top shelf getting cloudy but the others shelves not getting cloudy. That said, there certainly might be some industry trick to make the blister adhere down to the surface, but Im not aware of any. Finally, try less dilution. And that is part of my concern here. I need something durable yet repairable. Is there a special place, a store I can find it at or do I need to by it online. So I say go water-based for your topcoat or simply use a high quality exterior latex. }, But never say never. "sales_number": "402-2604" I think Im confused too with all these comments, lol. Im just about through all of them but am trying to pace myself a bit since Ive been watching about 5 or 6 episodes per day since I discovered it. My question has two parts: First, is spar urethane the best sealer to use on outdoor painted canvas? it looks pretty good, no brush marks. So if you dont want that darker color, then you have to get the stain out of the wood. I think you can. thanks again! And Im not sure what your weather conditions are so I cant say for sure. That would actually be my preferred method. While I suppose one might argue that a 50/50 thinned finish does absorb deeper than a full strength coat, Id have to imagine the actual impact is negligible. He bought a new brush and a whole new can of the urethane.but, still, brush marks wouldnt go away. "values": [{ Honestly, I would go with a good high quality polyurethane. Good luck! If you cover the pieces to protect them from the elements, you can be a little more flexible with the finish. If we use the Spar Urethane and thin with mineral spirits will this give enough protection without the gloss? Covers up to 150 sq. i was thinking lacquer. My question is about the wipe-on method. After waiting 24hours something doesnt seem right as the Hellsman is not tacky to the tough and it doesnt appear to be dry. If so, what grit? Im curious why you want to? Once that was finished, it looked like a clear pond of water with rocks in it. The List Price is the suggested retail price of a new product as provided by a manufacturer, supplier, or seller. I have talked to others who have successfully done this but want to make sure I do it right and with the right products. Is the Epifanes Wood Finish product a reasonable option to avoid the sanding? Hi Lisa. 6 coats of a wiped-on spar varnish sounds like a reasonable film finish. It looks great but, once again, those pesky dust particles have shown up. You rock!i love that this site exists and all the Q & A. The top is birch and the rails and front are oak. Your Cart I have a client that has an exterior wood front door that faces north (in Texas). "usage": "Defining", At least thats what I found with my outdoor furniture. It may also be worthwhile to simply try sanding the darker areas. :). { Last two were thinned with naptha to speed drying in the cold temps. Use thin coats. "partNumber": "1541697", This material will absorb deeply into the fibers and protect them against abrasion and moisture. Thinning by about 10-20% will make brushing significantly easier. What do you recommend? I assume I should apply the unfinished baseboard to the tile first with plenty of glue (like a PL Premium or Liquid Nails) to get the best seal between the wood and the wall and then stain and apply a spar urethane on to the exposed sides. 11 oz. Clear Gloss Oil-Based Spar Urethane Spray - The Home Depot Im into carving hand routed signs. "usage": "Defining", Also, test on scrap or an inconspicuous area first to confirm that there are no adhesion issues and that you really like the way it looks. "storeDisplay": false, But keep testing on small areas (smart move), until you get it right. WWI think I may have screwed up my front door. And I would continue applying with the foam brush if thats giving you good results. I used 1X4s and created a design. Hey Jon. Hi Holly. "unitOfMeasure": "", "uniqueID": "7000000000000005705" Yes I would definitely sand the baseboard lightly with 180 grit paper before finishing. }, { Great advice on the 50/50 cut for the wiping method. Especially if the finish is rough, a light sanding will help smooth things out between coats. "defaultDisplayFlag": "false", So if it were my door, I would strip it once again, sand it smooth, and give it several days to settle just in case there is residual oils in the surface. "unitID": "", Can you recommend a course of action? Your site is great! I was told that a rule of thumb was varnish for hard woods and poly for softer woods. }, As long as the coat of paint has both dried and cured, you can coat a non-penetrating Spar Urethane over it. "AttributeValues": { They dry so quickly. Mmm:) So what I would recommend is you get yourself a couple of cans of high gloss clear lacquer. This Website is great. The finish doesnt have to be sanded between coats unless you want it to be perfectly smooth. Boats are definitely a little outside of my area of expertise so I would recommend contacting the folks over at Jamestown Distributors. I am finishing the interior of my log home and have used spar urethane for my bathroom, utility, and kitchen cabinets. }], "usage": "Defining", So I dont think you really need to take any precautions in that area. But getting 10 years out of a water-based exterior finish is pretty darn good so you might consider using the same product you used before. ", "ItemThumbnailImage": "//sherwin.scene7.com/is/image/sw/paint_template-1?layer=comp&wid=250&fmt=jpeg&qlt=92%2c0&op_sharpen=0&resMode=sharp2&op_usm=0.0%2c0.0%2c0%2c0&iccEmbed=0&printRes=150&_tparam_layer_1_src=sw/Helmsman_Aero_Indoor_Outdoor_Semi", or do I need to do something else? "facetable": true, Hi, Thanks for the site, some good answers here. Thus far, I have applied 3 coats with a sponge brush, sanding with 00 steel wool between coats. "product_number": "13205000", (I had never before heard of sanding after the final coat, only heard between coats.). Perhaps someone with floor experience can chime in. But the first thing Id look into is the type of varnish you used. I have not sprayed or wiped poly only brushed. I am leaning towards the spar varnish for its protection against uv and the numerous water bottles that may be dropped on the tray.

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